Some conversations are only good once you have had time to put them into perspective

[afuna]

The weirdest conversation I never actually finished happened like this:

I was in university, walking with my friend after class. Talk turned to relationships, sex, virginity. He said that he wanted any girlfriend of his to be a virgin, and that if he ever found out that anyone he was dating wasn't one, he'd break up with her immediately. I said (half-shyly, half-defiantly, I was just discovering I had a voice) that I understood where he was coming from but that virginity should not be the only criterion by which to judge a person.

He stopped, stared, spluttered, "So you want t-t-to", he waved his hands around wildly, lost for words until his eyes lighted on the trees across the field. "You're saying it's fine if every girl here in $university suddenly decided to devirginate themselves on the nearest branch?!?!?!"

(His words, his intonation).

I opened my mouth, blanked out completely, shut it, and walked away.

It has been three years. I still haven't thought up a good comeback.

Comments

[shirochan.livejournal.com]

"If it's better than getting devirginated by you, sure."

*shot*

Okay I'm not very good with comebacks either. But that sounds like.. a weird conversation. XD;

[pauamma]

Words fail me.

[afuna]

As they have me.

[atomic-clay.livejournal.com]

HAHAHA I LOLed.

Well, virginity imo is more of like a state rather than a medical thing (i.e. the continued existence of the hymen). I read that those can break from like cycling, and splitting and stuff.

Which is kind of stupid if you think about it... I mean, that you'd consider yourself not a virgin because of something other than sex. XD

And a branch... WHUT? XD XD XD

[afuna]

HAHAHA I LOLed.

And I could not walk through SEC field for a week.

Perhaps he meant using the branch in a sexual act, which is the only sane way to interpret his sentence (... did I just imply that suggesting an entire school have sex with branches is sane????)

[atomic-clay.livejournal.com]

Why couldn't you not walk around SEC field? :))

Yeah, that's probably what he meant. And no, you didn't imply that it was sane! :))

What I meant was... he was using the "technical," if you will, definition of virginity. Which is really quite... unreliable.

I remember reading this retort on a similar situation somewhere: Who would you consider more of a "virgin": A girl who has had sexual intercourse once in her life, or a girl who has never had intercourse but has performed other non-penetrative sexual acts with say, 5, or maybe a dozen other people?

[afuna]

It happened right there on the SEC walkway! I had these terrible associations, grrrr.

And yes! Someone in a comment below asked how he'd know that the girl is really a virgin, and really it is difficult to prove one way or another!

Does non-penetrative include anal sex? *rimshot*

[atomic-clay.livejournal.com]

Haha horrible recollections of the conversation eh no. XD

Yeah, it is difficult to prove it as it is - haha honesty system?! :))

HAHAHA XD I guess I meant non-vaginal intercourse hahaha! Srsly, like what Eula mentioned, picking that way as a method to "preserve virginity"... that's just messed up, and really, just a bunch of excuses. :))

[eula-tequila.livejournal.com]

You know what the trend is now? Anal sex to "preserve virginity." WTF, society.

[atomic-clay.livejournal.com]

Haha it's just... technicalities! :))

[atomic-clay.livejournal.com]

Oh, and I totally agree with you on this:

virginity should not be the only criterion by which to judge a person. :))

Ah well, he's just really conservative, eh? LOL!

[azurelunatic]

I think your actual response was a very good silent interpretation of "I cannot believe how much of an idiot you are".

[azurelunatic]

"It's their decision. Not mine. Not yours."

[afuna]

^--- I could make this my default answer for a *lot* of things.

[idonotlikepeas]

*blank look* "Yeah. That's exactly what I'm saying."

[idonotlikepeas]

"I mean, aside from the splinters."

[afuna]

*curls up protectively and owwwws*

[azurelunatic]

Water, meet screen.

[av8rmike.livejournal.com]

Paraphrased:
"A guy wants to be a woman's first love, and a woman wants a guy to be her last."

[danielefton.livejournal.com]

oddly, I want both.

[murklins.livejournal.com]

AHAHAHAHA! I would be so so afraid to have sex with that person. If he thinks you can lose your virginity to a tree branch, things are not going to go well in the bedroom.

[afuna]

I *love* *love* *love* your icon, it is perfect <333

[danielefton.livejournal.com]

There is so much wrong with this guy.

because - if you date a virgin and do things right, she won't be a virgin for long - and then what you have to break up with her? Right after you get to the good part - and put in all that work?

NO!

[afuna]

Heee!

(Though I think his thing was sex after marriage, which I respect, but as a personal choice!)

[cindyg.livejournal.com]

::breaks into laughter::

A BRANCH, FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY...! ::wheeze::

According to an OB-GYN I once read, a virgin is no longer virgin after she engages in sex, bottom line; as hymens can be broken by various means other than the one described in bodice-rippers. ::ebil grin::

But on a more serious note, I have no idea how this male being would determine the virginity of his girlfriend. By word of mouth? Not very reliable, that. From first-hand evidence? Errrrm...oh, dear.

Honestly, there are no words with which to come back to a pronouncement as that.

[afuna]

But on a more serious note, I have no idea how this male being would determine the virginity of his girlfriend. By word of mouth? Not very reliable, that. From first-hand evidence? Errrrm...oh, dear.

I did not even think of that :O

Poor poor boy!

[cindyg.livejournal.com]

::snort::

It is to be hoped that should he find marital happiness, the particular gene controlling mental outlook will not be passed on to the next generation. Such a jurassic POV deserves to go the way of the dinosaurs.

/end snark

:)

[afuna]

It is possible that two more years of college opened his eyes to new perspectives! (I can only but hope :-))

[keilexandra]

Late reply, but I can't resist:

Yes.


This may be why my friends call me stubborn and utterly untactful. :D

[afuna]

Hahha. I like it!

[jaayx.livejournal.com]

I remember that happened before, and I went all "WHAT THE FUCK?" on my friend and repeated whatever he had said before... Damn bigots.