Cross-language.... something

[afuna]

Trying to find an English word which sounds out like "ng+g" (not necessarily spelled that way), to prove (or maybe disprove) a point in a conversation.

I thought "finger" was close, but it turns out it's pronounced "fin+ger", rather than "fing+ger", huh.

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[pne]

I thought "finger" was close, but it turns out it's pronounced "fin+ger", rather than "fing+ger", huh.

Uh, what? [[citation needed]] !

Do you, perhaps, also pronounce "bank" as "ban-k" rather than "bang-k"?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/finger gives "fing+ger" for all four dictionary citations on that page that include a pronunciation key.

And I've always heard "finger" vs. "singer" used as the prototypical difference between "ng-g" and "ng" in English. (The reason being, as I understand it, that "finger" is monomorphemic, so the letters "ng" turn into a "ng-g", while "singer" is from "sing", which only has "ng", and keeps that pronunciation even in the -er derivation. Since "ng" is pronounced "ng-g" only intervocalically *within the same morpheme*. Or something like that.)

[afuna]

Hmm, I was basing it off http://www.google.com/dictionary?aq=f&langpair=en|en&hl=en&q=finger, where the initial "ng" sound is much more subtle. The way you linked to seems more the way I pronounce it.

[pne]

I don't have sound on here at work, but I'll note that the transcription on that page uses an ŋ (which is the "ng" sound) followed by a /ɡ/ (which is, unsurprisingly, the "g" sound).

[afuna]

*nods thoughtfully* Thank you for clearing up that symbol. I... huh I thought for some reason it was a j, which makes absolutely no sense now

(fin-jer, like ginger? *oops*)

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[pne]

I guess it arose from a combination of "n" and "g" (the single-hook hand-written version, not the two-oval printed version).

Re: ŋ

[afuna]

Tangentially, in this font, it looks kind of like a stylized katakana "ku". Would be tempted to say "ri" if it were more script-like, but anyway...

Yeah that makes sense! And off on another tangent, now I'm thinking about those !? things. Slashbangs. Swatterbottoms.... ohh interrobangs, right?

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[pne]

Interrobang, yes: ‽

[yvi]

I knew you would comment and clear this up! :)

*does not feel weird anymore, because she was doing it right after all*

[afuna]

Hahahhah I admit, when I made this entry, I was secretly hoping it would interest pne enough to comment... *halo*

[pne]

Oh! Well, I'm glad that my input was welcome, nay, even sought-for! *beams*

[afuna]

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[afuna]

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