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[personal profile] afuna
The article "Revenge of the Introvert" is certainly making its way through my circle. Like many others, I had a lot of lightbulb moments throughout this article.


The one that hit closest to home for me were the sections about dealing with other people. Specifically:

a.) as an introvert, you can force yourself to be sociable if absolutely necessary, but it takes a lot out of you.
b.) being an introvert does not mean you hate people. It just means you choose how to interact with them.

And these two things -- they have always haunted me with guilt! I don't like parties that much. because I find being in large groups of people tiring. Sometimes I may like everyone, like the venue, like what we're doing, but need to rest after just a short period of time. This is entirely unrelated to disliking anyone in the group.

I like listening more than I like talking; when I'm quiet, that doesn't mean I'm disengaged. That means I'm listening.

And well, I spent my teenage years convinced I was a horrible horrible person because I would come back from group outings happy -- and also completely zoned out and exhausted. I used to doubt myself because when in small groups, I am happier being a listener than a talker (I used to doubt that I was... good enough? To talk? Something!)

(Too-big groups stress me out because they're too big. Too-small groups stress me out because I feel pressured to leap into the conversation, even when I have nothing to say)

And guilt, oh the guilt haunted me that whenever I was with my family at events -- weddings, birthdays, whatever -- I just could not get the hang of small talk. I could only spend short amounts of time talking to people before I'd start to fade (a combination of wanting to fade into a wall, and a sort of visibly wilting from feeling tired and zoned out). I knew I was getting this reputation of being suplada (aloof/ice princess-ish), because I wasn't a people person and oh I hated it (I hated myself), so I tried to force myself to get out there and talk more; that backfired. I'd try hard; I'd also crash hard.

Eventually what I realized was that forcing myself to be more sociable than I needed to be was basically setting myself up for horrible miserable failure. I might be able to force myself to stay at an event, but once I was past my limits, I would start to become unresponsive at the event, and it would take me days (weeks!) to recover. It took me a long time -- a really long time -- to acknowledge that there was nothing wrong with removing myself from a situation that I didn't enjoy. Heeding warning signs did not make me weak.

Funnily enough, once I did come to this realization, I started to shed my awkwardness (most of it; I kept the good parts :-). I thought I had to be a people person in order to gain confidence. It turns out that all I needed was to know myself and respect my limits.

YOUNGER SELF I WISH THAT I COULD TELL YOU ALL THIS. On the other hand, my younger self would have been way too wrapped up in herself to believe me anyway.

(FUTURE SELF DON'T FORGET THIS? I'D LIKE TO LIVE A HAPPY CONFIDENT ADULTHOOD HELP ME YOU ARE MY ONLY HOPE)

Date: 2010-09-30 04:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kareila
Heh, sometimes I feel like the only advantage of getting older is understanding myself better. (Journaling helps too!)

I think my peers are pretty well clued in, but I need to figure out how to get my mom to understand the introversion thing. She'll call me on the phone and say stuff like, "Why are you so quiet? Don't you want to talk to me?" Guh.

Date: 2010-09-30 04:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] aveleh
:nods: I'm really feeling that right now. This weekend, I have my usual Shabbat dinner that I can't skip because I have an aunt visiting from out of town. And then Saturday, a friend of mine is coming to town to celebrate her birthday. And then Sunday, my immediate family is going to a family/friend's house to watch ridiculous TV and have ridiculous food. They're all things I'm really looking forward to; they'll all be fun. And yet, I'm exhausted just thinking about them. I have been in desperate need of some downtime, and it's just not coming.

I find for me, it's so much less stressful when I'm with friends who either are also introverts, or who at least can connect with the idea. Michelle and I often hang out on "cranky" days - going for dinner or watching tv together, but only having conversations in bursts. Ditto most of my other good friends; too many of whom just aren't convenient enough to hang out with often. On the other hand, I know that my family don't understand it, so I have to be "on" or I have to exhaust myself explaining that/why I'm exhausted, so I find that even more exhausting to anticipate and recover from.

Date: 2010-09-30 05:26 pm (UTC)
ninetydegrees: Art: self-portrait (Default)
From: [personal profile] ninetydegrees
Thanks for the link. There were lots of things that rang true for me (but I would disagree about not pursuing happiness).

Date: 2010-09-30 05:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pauamma
It does make sense, I think, if you interpret "pursuing happiness" as "pursuing happiness in society-approved ways" (or maybe society-valued)

Date: 2010-09-30 05:55 pm (UTC)
ninetydegrees: Art: self-portrait (Default)
From: [personal profile] ninetydegrees
Of course. That's what I thought they meant too and I would say they mean success/successful life - whatever that means.

Date: 2010-09-30 11:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kareila
I was confused by that because the author mentioned his own introversion leading to giving up his psych practice and becoming a writer. If that's not the pursuit of happiness, I don't know what is.

Date: 2010-09-30 05:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] delight
As totally uncontributory and ineloquent as it is, I think my thoughts can be summed up as: "+1."

(My phone will not, apparently, let me change my icon. I do have an appropriate one!)

Date: 2010-09-30 06:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] batrachian
My girlfriend and I came up with our own words for this - we call it "people tolerance". Which is influenced DRAMATICALLY by the number and familiarity of the people in question. She gets really antsy over things like a large (12-15) person group going to $LOCAL_AMUSEMENT_PARK together. I'd been struggling to understand it, 'cause I'm introverted as well, but (apparently) to a MUCH lesser degree. It's good to know it's not just her, and that she's not "broken". (I kept trying to tell her she wasn't, but she doesn't really believe me 'cause I'm her boyfriend and all... >_>)

Date: 2010-09-30 06:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] branchandroot
*nodding vigorously* One of my friends, who had a BS-psych to give him the vocabulary, said a long time ago that the difference between an introvert and an extrovert is that, while both of them can go to a party or a con and have a wonderful time, the extrovert will come out of that charged up while the introvert will come out drained. It made so much sense of life; especially since my spouse is extro while I'm intro. *wry*

Date: 2010-09-30 08:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] willidan
Thank you for the link. And I can relate to everything you spoke to above. I'm so much more comfortable with myself now because I don't pressure myself to be something I'm not. And, being an adult now, I can remove myself from people who try and pressure me into being something I don't want to be. I will admit that at times I do feel like I should speak faster, jump into conversation sooner, but I just can't. And I never really understood why that was. And I hate, hate, hate that the conversation moves on without me.

Anyhoo, thanks for the link. It made my day. :)

Date: 2010-09-30 10:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] synecdochic
I think you are awesome in person, FYI. :)

Date: 2010-10-01 02:16 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] trascendenza
Ah, the guilt, yeah -- I know that feeling so well. When I'm in an introverted space it's such an effort to give myself permission, which seems RIDICULOUS. If extroversion is a natural inclination, why is introversion any different? It turns out that all I needed was to know myself and respect my limits. Yay, I'm so happy for you. ♥

Date: 2010-10-02 02:58 pm (UTC)
jeshyr: Blessed are the broken. Harry Potter. (Default)
From: [personal profile] jeshyr
It was so unbelievably cool when you were here and totally grokked that spending time being in the same room but not (mostly) specifically interacting was something we both enjoyed! I miss that a lot.

Date: 2010-10-05 02:39 am (UTC)
jeshyr: Blessed are the broken. Harry Potter. (Default)
From: [personal profile] jeshyr
You know I'm looking for a flatmate, right?

(subtle lije a sledgehammer ... that's me :))

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