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[personal profile] afuna
I don't get flak about losing control over my English when it's late at night. (I mean, I can still talk and stuff, but I have to channel it into specific contexts, otherwise I start speak handwavium

And it feels great to not have that be an issue :))

Date: 2010-06-10 04:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] niqaeli
I would have problems if they gave people flak... and I'm a native speaker of English and don't actually speak any other languages (not proud of that, but it's a fact that is true!). Verbal processing / indexing is one of the first things go for me when I'm fried! Probably because I don't even entirely think in words -- am good with them, but they're actually a second layer. So I will sometimes end up flailing "the thing! the THING! with the thing! IN THE GARAGE GOES VROOOM. RIGHT, CAR." because the pointer to that label's down!

ANYWAY, YES. This is one of the brilliant thing aboust #dreamwidth. <3

Date: 2010-06-10 07:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pauamma
"Ah, fuck, the fucking fucker's fucked. Fuck it." (allegedly a genuine entry in a maintenance logbook)

Date: 2010-06-10 09:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ursamajor
This is what I wish I could say at work ALL THE FUCKING TIME.

Date: 2010-06-10 08:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] recessional
Verbal processing / indexing is one of the first things go for me when I'm fried! Probably because I don't even entirely think in words -- am good with them, but they're actually a second layer. So I will sometimes end up flailing "the thing! the THING! with the thing! IN THE GARAGE GOES VROOOM. RIGHT, CAR." because the pointer to that label's down!

. . . .are you sure you haven't picked up my brain? (I have said that almost verbatim. "The thing! that takes you to other places! It drives, has an engine!" " . . . .the car?" "YES. NOW SHUT UP I AM NOT FUNNY.")

Date: 2010-06-11 02:24 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] azurelunatic
My spoken English goes down quicker than my typed English, but yes. Very this. I brain in concepts and emotions, though I've an amazingly chatty internal monologue.

Date: 2010-06-11 02:25 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] azurelunatic
My spoken English goes down quicker than my typed English, but yes. Very this. I brain in concepts and emotions, though I've an amazingly chatty internal monologue.

Date: 2010-06-10 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ex_rising236
So much yes! I'm in the non-English native camp, but of course my native language doesn't even work very well on IRC. I'm also in the camp of verbal processing being something that goes away rather quickly. When I'm tired, I lose a lot of the words that ASL just doesn't have very often, such as 'a', or 'and', or 'the'. And #dw is awesome, because pretty much no one cares!

Date: 2010-06-11 12:35 pm (UTC)
pauamma: Cartooney crab wearing hot pink and acid green facemask holding drink with straw (Default)
From: [personal profile] pauamma
Also in the bilingual camp (although not ASL), and one thing that goes when I'm really tired is language separation. (I don't codeswitch, normally.) What usually happens then is the word that pops up when trying to map a concept is in the wrong language, and more often than not, it brings in the whole group of related words, so even managing "thing with wheels that goes VROOOM" in the context-appropriate language becomes a challenge.

And since you mentioned ASL, I have a question. How does ASL render onomatopoeia in spoken languages? (eg, is there an ASL word or phrase for "vroom" that doesn't translate to something like "noise that sounds like a car engine"?) And does ASL have onomatopeia of its own? (Presumably, "look-alike" words?)

Date: 2010-06-11 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ex_rising236
To be honest, the concept of onomatopoeia only half groks with me to begin with, but I mean … ASL is a visual language. A lot of signs actually look like whatever they represent, though there are equally abstract signs. I suppose the closest concept becomes any iconic signs, it would seem. They're similar concepts.

Date: 2010-06-11 02:56 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zarhooie
<3

Date: 2010-06-11 05:55 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jan
Handwavium! So that's the name of the language I've been speaking all these years, anytime before 7 a.m. without decent coffee.

(I tried to convince my niece that "ano kasing tawag no'on" is the same as "je ne sais quoi." She just laughed at me. Kids today, no respect for their elders! LOL)

Date: 2010-06-11 02:09 pm (UTC)
zarhooie: Girl on a blueberry bramble looking happy. Text: Kat (Default)
From: [personal profile] zarhooie
<3

Date: 2010-06-15 03:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thorfinn
*giggle*

English may be my first language, but I've been exposed to mathematics and programming and formal logic for so long and enough mandarin and hokkien that I don't really think in English.

I definitely speak lots of Handwavium, with a side dialect of mumble-gruntium. I also am getting quite fluent in the jazz verbal art of scatting, which is probably having a bad effect on my Englishing. :-)